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Can rain and flood cause all these damages in Duluth or this is part of the various seaway adjustments, in this case ripping at the weak point of Duluth? http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3863141 [and from another] http://www.ksfy.com/story/18844564/tuesday-and-wednesday-rainfall-in-duluth-is-a-record-breaker National Weather Service meteorologist Kevin Kraujalis says it's the wettest two-day period in Duluth history.

Duluth, MN is at the ripping end of Lake Superior, as one can see from the sharp point the lake assumes as it rips open toward the west. This area is solid granite, in the main, and thus does not rip readily. Wisconsin may be booming, and Detroit humming, but Duluth has been quiet. Flooding rainwater does erode soil, undermining bridge abutments(sunlint:桥台位于桥梁两端,支承桥梁上部结构并和路堤相衔接的建筑物。这我都不知道⊙﹏⊙b) and washing away roadways, but does not create the buckling pavement seen in the photos from Duluth. This is caused by the rush of water underground, unseen on the surface, through natural crevasses in the granite. The pressure from the bowing of the N American continent in fact causes many of these crevasses to close or tighten up. When this water flow then backs up, and cannot drain, it causes the soil to become mush, a type of liquefaction.  The damage in Duluth, thus, is caused not by the ripping Seaway but by the resistance of the rock to tearing!

明尼苏达州德卢斯位于苏必略湖撕裂的末端,这你可以从湖的尖形看出它向西撕裂。这一地区主要是坚硬的花岗岩,因此不那么容易被撕裂。威斯康星可能会发生爆炸,底特律可能会出现嗡嗡声,但是德卢斯向来很安静。雨水的泛滥的确会腐蚀土壤,侵蚀桥台并冲垮道路,但并不会造成德卢斯照片中看到的那种人行道的下沉。这是由穿过花岗岩天然缝隙的,表面上看不到的地下水的冲刷造成的。来自北美大陆弓形的压力事实上造成了很多这种缝隙闭合或是变牢。当这些水流退回去,无法排干时,会造成土壤溶解,算是某种液化。因此德卢斯的损坏不仅仅是由河道的撕裂造成的,岩石拒绝被撕裂也是原因之一!

Already few years I watch circles on fields and usually they started to appear in May. Now the end of June, and the real circles isn't present. Can tell, what happened? Why them ceased to draw?

Hoaxes, or deliberate crop circle frauds as they should be called as the motive is quite malicious, have improved in recent years. The motive behind well-funded frauds is to counter the growing evidence of the alien presence, as the cover-up crowd wants to claim all evidence is man-made, including amazing UFO displays. The motive is also to confuse the very real message given to the subconscious by valid crop circles, so that awareness of the approach of Planet X and the pending passage is diluted with nonsense. The 2012 field today (as of early June 25, 2012) contains not one valid design. They are all small, sloppy, and without the signature of a legitimate design which is crop bent at the node by rapid growth, rather than mashed or broken as the frauds are.
恶作剧,或是蓄意制作的所谓假麦田圈——这么称呼是因为其动机完全是恶意的——最近大有长进。资金充裕的赝品背后的动机是为了反击关于外星人的存在的越来越多的证据,因为掩盖活动想要声称所有证据都是人为的,包括令人惊叹的UFO展示。还有一个动机是混淆真正麦田圈通过潜意识给出的信息,这样对接近的X星以及即将到来的极移的知晓就会被稀释成胡言乱语。2012年至今(2012.6.25上午)为止没有真正的设计。它们都太小,粗制滥造,并且缺乏真正麦田圈的署名——也就是麦秆在节点处由于迅速增长而弯曲而不是假货那种被捣碎或是折断。
Why have legitimate circle designs apparently ceased in 2012? This is a game changer, as the frauds are so poorly done, so obviously sloppy and flawed and without the signature proof of an alien hand at the helm, that interest in circle designs will fall off. The frauds are only significant with a backdrop of legitimate circles, as it is the legitimate circle designs that bring attention. Then the frauds jump into the arena, into the spotlight, hoping to get attention. If crop circles are going to be ignored, then what ? UFO displays, mass sightings over cities and with various devices other than mere dashing lights, will be on the increase. Surprises await in this area, which we will not divulge.

为什么2012年真正的麦田圈设计明显中断了?游戏规则被改变了,因为假麦田圈制作如此之不充分,其草率和缺陷如此之明显而且没有外星人经手的签名证据,人们对麦田圈设计的兴趣就会大减。假麦田圈只在真正的麦田圈存在的背景下才有意义,因为是真麦田圈带来了公众的关注。之后假麦田圈跳上舞台,走到闪光灯之下,希望得到关注。如果麦田圈即将被忽视,会怎样?UFO展示,城市上空大规模目击事件伴随着UFO的各种装置而不仅仅是华丽的闪光,这些现象会越来越多。这一领域有惊喜等着你们,但是我们什么都不会透露。

With the existence of the mainstream information funnels upheld by the 1% PTB, is it even possible for the common man to pick themselves up, dust themselves off and start their own promotional campaign about the PS and the ZT message?  How long will the common man have to wait while they watch the common man suffer such as the Rohingya boat people in Bangladesh recently? To see their faces suffering is very revealing of the cover-up, given that they could easily have prepared themselves for what was in process and pending with ZT accuracy predictions.  Is there not much difference the common man can make at this point in terms of promotion of the ZT message to the world?  Is it even realistic for the common man to start an aggressive promotional campaign of the PS and ZT given the forces of the cover-up in place around the world?  What are the chances of the 99% making even a small slight difference to help the worlds populations prepare?  By the common man promoting the message to the world, could this be a way to sow peace among nations?

When asked to estimate the number of genuine contactees in 1998, we cited 12,000 (though the number is not fixed but constantly on the move). When asked recently in 2012, we gave the surprising answer of over a billion contactees. This number does not include Star Children, who likewise number about a billion, but covers almost all Earth born reincarnating souls and a number of human who have not yet sparked!  If the cover-up is attempting to blind the populace to the presence of Planet X and withhold information on the pending passage until the last possible minute, how can they control this invisible information river?
当1998年被问及真正的被接触者的数目时,我们引用了12000这个数字(尽管这个数目不是固定的而是经常在变动)。最近2012年又被问及此事时,我们给出的惊人答案是超过十亿被接触者。这个数目并不包含星星小孩,他们的数量同样是十亿,这个数目包括了几乎所有地球本土诞生的化身的灵魂,还有若干还未点燃的灵魂!如果掩盖活动正企图对公众掩饰X星的存在并保留关于即将到来的过境的信息,尽可能地拖到最后一刻,他们要怎样来控制这无形的信息长河?
The Internet is considered a thorn in the sides of the cover-up, as information goes viral on message boards, via email, with a key blog examined by millions before the establishment is even aware of its impact. The establishment suppresses the media and issues disinformation to counter the facts the common man is discussing on the Internet, and think they are winning this battle. After all, NASA is the expert on things in space, and NASA says so! The establishment in fact is complacent in the matter of the cover-up, as they have all visible means of communication under control, or so they think.
网络被认为是掩盖活动前进道路上的荆棘,因为信息会通过消息板,通过电子邮件四处蔓延,在权势集团意识到某篇博客的影响力之前,可能已经被数百万人浏览过了。权势集团压制媒体并发布虚假信息来反击公众在网络上讨论的事实,并认为他们赢得了这场战争。毕竟,NASA是空间问题的专家,而NASA如是说!权势集团事实上正得意于掩盖活动,因为所有有形的沟通手段都在他们控制之下,至少他们是这么想的。
It is the invisible river of communication between contactee and visitor, among contactees during group meetings, and thence discussed soul-to-soul among family and friends that the establishment should fear. Those in the establishment are not invited to group contactee meetings, as their motives are to deny the common man the information which would empower them. There is a groundswell of knowledge passing among contactees, electrifying them in purpose and determination. This is not visible on the surface. It is an internal flame, lit and burning ever brighter, that will emerge as a blaze of light one day soon, shocking the complacent establishment.

被接触者和访客之间的通信长河,还有在小组会面期间被接触者和被接触者之间的信息长河,还有在家人与朋友之间灵魂对灵魂的讨论,才是权势集团应该恐惧的。那些权势集团的人并没有被邀请到被接触者小组讨论之中去,因为他们的动机是向公众否认那些赋予公众的信息。知识的海啸冲击着被接触者们,振奋着他们的决心和意志。这在表面上是看不到的。这是内焰,照射得愈发明亮,终将有一天会变成光芒的爆发,震惊那些自满的权势集团。

Although this falls in the realm of politics, this question is about a conspiracy theory appearing all over the internet that could affect the presidential election in November. If there is something to House Speaker Boehner's allegations that the White House is involved in a cover up of the "Fast and Furious" gun program, then why is House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa sometimes saying differently?  Would the Zetas care to comment on this situation? [and from another] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/24/darrell-issa-john-boehner-fast-and-furious_n_1622141.html?utm_hp_ref=politics Boehner said that the Obama administration's decision to invoke executive privilege to prevent the release of some documents about the program Issa had requested was "an admission that White House officials were involved in the decision that misled the Congress and covered up the truth." In February 2011, DOJ sent a letter to Congress denying such sales, but retracted that claim in December. It is not clear if either Attorney General Eric Holder or President Barack Obama were aware of the program, and Issa acknowledged Sunday that he has not found evidence Holder was involved. But the investigation has devolved into a bizarre, complex conspiracy theory, which Issa and other congressional Republicans have suggested the Obama administration hatched in order to impose new gun control regulations. By inciting gun violence in Mexico, the theory goes, the administration hoped to spark a controversy that would build public support for gun control. President George W. Bush's administration opposed gun control, and it used similar programs to track criminal groups.

Were Obama, and even Holder, aware of the Fast and Furious program in its early days? They were not, and Holder's initial report to Congress, wherein he denied that such a program even existed, reflects that. Federal agencies, and the federal government, are not structured such that the men and women at the top are aware of every operation. Is Obama aware of every FBI operation, of which there are thousands at any given time? He is certainly not aware of every CIA operation as intense secrecy to protect under cover agents is considered a necessity. A "need to know" classification normally excludes those at the top, as invariably secretaries and administrators would likewise become aware and the possibility of a leak explodes, exponentially, because of this. Is every secretary to be given a top security clearance?
奥巴马,甚至霍德尔,在早期是否知晓速度与激情计划?二人均不知情,而且霍德尔提交国会的原始报告反映了这一点,在报告中他甚至否认这项计划的存在。联邦机构和联邦政府,并没有构建成 男性或女性最高层决策人员知晓所有行动 的结构。在任何指定时间,FBI都有数千项行动,奥巴马是否知晓每项行动?他当然不知晓每项行动因为用强力的保密手段来保护一个隐蔽的机构被认为是必要的。"需要知情"等级通常排除了那些高层决策人员,因为否则的话大臣和管理人员将知晓这些,那么就存在泄密情况以指数级爆发的可能。每个秘书都被给予最高安全调查了吗?
Sloppy work at the lower levels of federal agencies is nothing new, but normally this does not come to light and is covered up by those responsible. In Fast and Furious a border agent was killed, and thus the flap. That and the fact that there will be a presidential election this year . In an election year, any and everything is used to skew the public mind. Whether the charge is factual is not important, as those making the charges hope the electorate will pull to this or that side based on the unproven allegations, the extra baggage, and the wild theories.
联邦机构底层人员工作草率不是什么新鲜事了,但是通常情况下这并不会曝光出来,而是被负责人掩盖下去。在速度与激情中,一名边界代理官员被杀,因此喧嚣四起。不仅如此,事实上今年会有总统大选。在大选年,一切事情都会被用来扭曲公众的思想。指控是否属实并不重要,因为那些发起控告的人希望选民会根据未被证实的指控,额外的负担和狂热的学说被拉向这一边或是那一边。
Why did Obama declare Executive Privilege(sunlint:行政官员豁免权,行政官员可拒绝出席国会委员会或法庭作证的特权? So as not to fan the flames, as the word "gun" does appear in early memos informing the President of the operation and its unintended consequences . Double meanings would be claimed , talking in code would be claimed. Thus the burden of proof will be on the accusers, as it is today, their words hollow.

为什么奥巴马宣布行政特权?这样做是为了避免火上浇油,因为"枪支"一词确实出现在告知总统该行动以及计划外后果的早期备忘录之中。会说这是一语双关,会说这是用密语在交谈。这样一来提供证据的责任就会落在原告头上,就像现在那样,他们的言辞空洞。

New CC at Milk Hill, nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire. Reported 25th June. Seems this shows the Planet X and looks truely?
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/milkhill/milkhill2012a.html

This is another fraud, as astonishing as this may seem to some. Compare the mashed manner in how the grain is laid down, compared to crop circles in 2004-2005 which were legit. The 2012 Milk Hill design has grain mashed over crudely, rather than bent at the node by a growth stimulant as in legitimate circles. The earlier circles, such as Silbury Hill in 2005, have the grain in large circles laid over in a circular pattern, whereas the 2012 fraud has the grain mashed laterally, in quarters, which can be readily seen. Silbury Hill even has the grain woven, such that a superimposed circle on top of a larger circle has the grain going perfectly in a circular manner. The 2012 Milk Hill gives evidence that it is a fraud in other ways too. All parts of the design are accessible, so that foot steps are not evident. Even the small circles at the tail are reachable with a machine arm.

有些人会大吃一惊,但这是也是另一个骗局。谷物以被捣烂的方式倒下,你可以跟2004-2005年那些真正的麦田圈比一比。2012牛奶山设计图里的谷物被粗鲁地捣烂,而不是像真正麦田圈那样受生长促进剂的影响而在节点处弯曲。更早的麦田圈,比如说2005年希尔布里山麦田圈,大圆中的谷物以圆形排列倒下,而在2012假麦田圈中谷物在四分之一处被向一旁捣烂,这可以很明显地看出来。希尔布里山麦田圈的谷物甚至经过了编织,以使大圆上叠加的圆圈的谷物也是呈完美的圆形方式排列。2012牛奶山的麦田圈在其它地方也暴露了这是个假货。设计的所有部分都是可以进入的,这样一来脚印就不明显了。即使尾部的小圆圈也可以用机器手臂轻松达到。

2 refugee boat accidents, with both taking place near migration-unfriendly Australia. I feel sabotage. Are these accidents related to earth changes, or is this a preview of how serious some countries will be about keeping those unwanted out? [and from another] http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/14052459/boat-carrying-150-capsizes-off-northwest-australia/ A boat carrying around 150 people has capsized 107 nautical miles (200 km) north of Australia's Christmas Island, Australia's Customs and Border Protection said, the second such incident in less than a week. Last week, a boat carrying around 200 suspected aslyum seekers capsized between Indonesia and Australia, claiming around 90 lives. [and from another] http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/14008433/asylum-seeker-boat-carrying-200-capsizes-off-australia/
Though they come in relatively small numbers by global standards, asylum-seekers are a sensitive political issue in Australia, dominating 2010 elections due to a record 6,555 arrivals. Direct asylum-seeker journeys from Sri Lanka have historically been rare but navy sources in Colombo have reported a marked increase in Australia-bound people-smuggling operations, with about 200 arrests in recent weeks. In December, a boat carrying around 250 mostly Afghan and Iranian asylum-seekers sank in Indonesian waters on its way to Christmas Island, with only 47 surviving. Some 50 refugees were killed in a horror shipwreck on the island's cliffs in December 2010. Fifteen were children aged 10 years or younger, with one a baby just three months old. The worst known refugee boat disaster off Australia in recent years was the sinking of the SIEV X in 2001, which killed 353 of the more than 400 asylum-seekers on board.

Are disasters being assisted so refuges don't reach Australian shores? Yes, but not in the manner one would assume. The boats are not being shot out of the water, or sabotaged with explosives on the underside, nor deliberately tinkered with in a manner that would make them capsize or start to sink. But given the quality of the boats used to smuggle refugees, and the integrity of the smugglers, sabotage is easy to arrange. Money for the trip is collected up front, so the smugglers make their money regardless. They are paid additional funds to overload the boats and head them into storms. The boats used are disposable, barely afloat, and not owned by the smugglers in any case. Australia hopes to frighten would-be asylum seekers in this manner, or in any case reduce the numbers reaching their shores.

这些灾难是否是故意安排的,这样一来难民就不会到达澳大利亚海岸了?是的,但并不是以你假定的那种方式。船只被没有被岸边的人放枪,或是被水下爆炸物所破坏,也没有被故意地胡乱修补以使其倾覆或是开始下沉。但那是考虑到用来投毒难民的船只的质量,还有走私犯的天性,破坏活动很容易安排。旅程的费用已经预先收缴了,所以走私贩无论如何都已经赚了。他们还被支付了额外的资金,让他们超载船只并将船只开向暴风雨之中。使用的船只是一次性的,仅仅能够漂着不沉下去,而且无论如何并不是那些走私者所有。澳大利亚希望以这种方式来恐吓那些想要来这里寻求庇护的人,或是无论如何减少到达海岸的人的数量。

A new Crop Circle appeared at Fabbrico in Italy in June 25. This Crop Circle looks different from other Crop Circles which appeared in the past few days. So if it's a true Crop Circle, what message is present?
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/inter2012/italy/Fabbrico2012a.html


This is a genuine crop circle, as one can see from simply examining the weaving of the grain. There are intricacies such as thin line circles that end at the edge of another thin line circle, with no overlap. There is a deliberate break in the swath of circles also, where the field has broken grain, arranged so that the intent of the design uses the landscape, rather than fights against it. But it is the weaving of the grain, within the central circle, that shows this is a legitimate design and not a fraud. In the very center there are multiple tuffs each with a circle swirl around it, but the grain also continues to swirl in the larger circle, not something a fraud would accomplish.
这是个真正的麦田圈,仅仅检查谷物的编织方式你就可以看出来了。有很多错综复杂之处比如说结束于另一个细圆圈的细圆圈,没有重叠。圆圈的细痕之中还有故意设计的断点,正好在麦田田垄处,这样一来麦田圈的设计刚好利用了地表,而不是和地表花纹对抗。但是是中心圆圈内部谷物的编织方式显示了这是个真实的麦田圈而不是假的。在最中心有多个竖起,每一个都伴随着圆圈环绕,但是谷物仍然环绕着大圈,这可不是假货能够完成的。
What is the meaning of this design? Planet X has a retrograde orbit and this design shows this clockwise progression. When viewed from Earth, as is shown on the Path diagram Nancy developed from the details we provided at the start of the ZetaTalk saga in 1995, Planet X appeared first to sling left, then up, then right, then down before arriving at where it could be seen naked eye in the sky in March, 2003. Then the break in the circles where thin line circles begin. This break indicates a break in time, from 2003 until the passage. Going into the passage, Planet X will grow in size, looming as large as the Moon or the Sun in the sky, while also continuing in its retrograde orbit so it will align in front of the Sun, rather than to the right of the Sun in the view from the Northern Hemisphere as it does today.

这个设计的意义是什么?X星位于逆行轨道之上而这个麦田圈显示了顺钟方向的前进。当从地球看去时,正如nancy根据我们在1995年齐塔人之声传奇刚开始时提供的细节绘制的路径图中显示的,X星看起来先是抛向左边,之后向上,再向右,最后在2003年3月在空中肉眼可见之前又降了下来。之后圆圈被打断,细线圈开始出现。这个断点指代事件的断层,从2003年直到过境。在过境时,X星的尺寸将会变大,在空中变到差不多跟月亮或是太阳一样大,同时在其逆行轨道上继续前进,与太阳对齐,而不是像今天站在北半球看去那样在太阳右侧。

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