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齐塔人之声2012年7月21日聊天问答  

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Not sure if this weird  tsunami-like event occurred in Italy July 13, 2012 was already discussed on this ning. It seems related to the daily wobble, and no news in English, sorry.[and from another] http://www.blitzquotidiano.it/foto-notizie/tsunami-like-tirreno-onda-anomala-terremoti-1302583/ What has happened? On the morning of July 12, around 9.30, the sea recedes. About twenty feet back from Liguria to Sicily. Then the water back to shore, but in the form of about a meter high tidal wave. Happens the first, second, the third time, and so on for about 3 hours. Shortly after 12 everything back to normal. But the phenomenon has triggered a "hunt for the cause." The earliest hypothesis was that the tsunami was somehow linked to the earthquake which shook the area around Ischia.[and from another] Tsunami like on Tyrrenian Sea http://tinyurl.com/bsqf2fw A small tsunami was observed on the coasts of the Tyrrhenian Sea, from Sicily to Liguria. The sea for about 3 hours has retreated about 20 meters. "Small tsunami" in the Tyrrhenian Sea, the sea crazy for three hours The Messenger. A "small tsunami" on the Pontine coast Latina24ore.it Small 'tsunami' in the lower Tyrrhenian Viterbo News 24. Like the tsunami, tidal wave on the Tyrrhenian Sea, INGV, perturbation . The change in the level of the Tyrrhenian Sea, which lasted several hours, recorded in the late morning of Thursday 'last year, on the coast of Lazio and . Mini tsunami in the Tyrrhenian Sea, the confirmation by INGV: "no earthquake effect" CronacaLive. Mystery of the sea, still unexplained "tsunami" in the Tyrrhenian sea. Tsunami like waves anomalous Tyrrhenian without explanation, on the morning of Friday, July 13, 2012, in the Tyrrhenian Sea, Gaeta July 13, 2012

Clearly, during the African Roll, wherein Africa drops as well as rolls its top part to the East, the plate border running through the Mediterranean will pull apart. When it does so, tsunami potential exists. When plate borders pull apart, as they do in the center of the Atlantic, for instance, water rushes into the void, clashes, and then rebounds. In areas subject to tsunami, residents along coastlines are told to beware of water suddenly receding, pulling away from the coastline. This is not a reduction in sea level, but the precursor event, where water drops into a void created by plate movement. The receding tide is followed by the rebound, which rolls inland with surprising speed. The Tyrrenian Sea tsunami is proof that the African Roll is in process!

很明显,在非洲滚动,也就是非洲下降的同时顶部向西滚动期间,穿过地中海的板块边界将会被拉开。当这种情况发生时,存在海啸的可能。当板块边界被分开,比如说就像大西洋中部那样,海水会涌向空虚,碰撞,之后再反弹。在会遭受海啸的地区,沿海居民被告知要小心海水的突然退却,从沙滩上退下。这并不是海平面的下降,而是先导事件,海水落入板块运动产生的空虚之中。潮汐的后退会紧跟着反弹,反弹会以令人吃惊的速度卷入内陆。第勒尼安海海啸是非洲滚动正在进行的证据!

 

There has been a recent uptick of dramatic mudslides occurring in the Pacific Northwest.  While the press predictably attributes these incidents to saturated soil from melting snow pack and/or rain, given the broad geographic proximity of these events and that several occurred within hours of each other, it appears there is more to the story. Will the Zetas confirm these are stretch zone incidents resulting from the increased stress on N. America, and also elaborate if underground volcanism or heat from stressed rock are also contributing factors? [and from another] June 24 - Josephine Creek near Kaslo, BC.  http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1216728--mudslide-destroys-dam-supplying-drinking-water-to-b-c-town 
Mudslide wiped out dam that funnels water to Kaslo BC on Kootenay Lake about 70 kilometres north of Nelson. 
[and from another]
 July 12 - Johnsons Landing BC. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/13/frantic-b-c-mother-urges-action-save-family-members-after-massive-landslide-crushes-homes/ 4 houses washed away by mudslide on Gar Creek, above Johnsons Landing, carving path of destruction down the mountainside into Kootenay Lake. [and from another] July 15 - Fairmont Hot Springs, BChttp://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2012/07/15/bc-fairmont-hot-springs-mudslide.html 600 stranded as Highway 93/95 buried in debris from mudslide at Fairmont Hot Springs Resort.  Mudslide formed a natural dam along creek upstream from the resort, eventually releasing a devastating torrent of mud and debris. [and from another] July 14 - Mudslides Close 66 Miles of Highway and Rail Line in Southwestern W.  
http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2012/07/15/mudslide-closes-66-miles-of-highway Multiple mudslides buried railroad tracks, buckled a state highway, after mud and debris gushed down the bluffs above the Columbia River in eastern Klickitat County about 50 road miles west of Goldendale. [and from another]
 July 14 - Mudslide Buries Train Tracks Near Pasco, Washington. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2018693337_apwatraintracklandslide1stldwritethru.html
Slide buried 300 feet of track in boulders and debris and washing out the track bed. 
[and from another]
 June 11 - Massive Landslide in Glacier Bay National Park, Alaska.http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/massive-landslide-in-glacier-bay-national-park-sends-rock-and-ice-over-glacier/2012/07/12/gJQAED1ZgW_story.html Perhaps the largest landslide in North American history, half-mile wide and 5 ? miles long, registering as a 3.4-magnitude earthquake, burying a remote valley beneath the 11,750-foot Lituya Mountain in the Fairweather Range about six miles from the border with British Columbia.

Why has a spate of mudslides occurred in the region just inland from Vancouver Island and center of the Juan de Fuca Plate border? The presence of the Juan de Fuca Plate shows the pressure that is applied during Pole Shifts as the N American continent is pulled into a bow. The Pacific Plate has been fractured to create the Juan de Fuca, in essence. This happens regularly because, as we have stated, the N American Plate is flat on top, so it cannot roll. S America and Africa can roll, though they also bend and bow to some degree. N America bows until the New Madrid adjusts and the Seaway rips, but until then has stress from top to bottom. Mountainous areas are prone to landslides, due to the angle on hillsides, but when they happen, en mass, within days of each other, something else is afoot. The ground has moved, reacting to the bow pressure. 

为什么大量的泥石流会正好出现在温哥华岛的内陆和胡安德富卡板块边界的中心?胡安德富卡板块的存在显示了历次极移时由于北美大陆被拉成弓形而施加的压力。本质上是太平洋板块的断裂形成了胡安德富卡板块。这种情形(历次极移期间)会经常发生是因为,正如我们所说的,北美板块顶部平整,所以无法滚动。南美和非洲可以滚动,尽管它们也受到某种程度的弯曲。北美的弓形会持续直到新马德里调整和河道的撕裂,但是直到那以前从上到下都会受到压力。由于山坡陡峭,多山的地区的确容易发生山崩,但是当相隔几天发生多次大规模山崩,事情就不一样了。由于弓形压力,土地发生了移动。

A video was recently uploaded to the internet, shot by a camera, undescribed. Apparently depicting an object in the vicinity of the Moon, or at least at a similar declination etc as the Moon north pole: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssPYi26zgtQ
Wolverhampton UK on July 15, 2012. Would the Zetas please give their unique insight on this?

On can see upon close examination of the video that the orb in question is not solid, but light. The solid Moon retains its appearance when the camera jiggles, where the orb has a delayed reaction to being moved, appearing smeared. Camera lens record the light over a period of time, and thus when the camera is being moved an object can appear in more than one place on the lens. When some objects move, and others remain solid, this indicates they have a different source. The jiggling of the camera is intended to imply a nervous photographer, a hand held device, and thus imply legitimacy. Could the Moon be filmed from behind glass? This is not evident from the video, but this is the case, with a light laser pointed at the where the tip of the Moon crescent would appear. The distance between the cam and the Moon, and the cam and the window, differ. Thus in a zoom, there is an adjustment to one, but not the other. This is a fraud. 

仔细检查视频你可以看到问题中的物体并不是实体,而是光亮。当相机轻摇时实体月亮保持其形状,而圆点的移动略有延迟,看起来像是污迹。相机镜头会记录光亮一段时间,因此当相机移动时一个物体在相机中可能不止处于一个位置。当某些物体在移动,而另一些物体处于原地,这表明两种物体来源不同。相机的震动表明摄影师比较紧张,用的手持式装置,因此视频是真实的。月亮可以在玻璃后面拍摄到吗?从视频来看并不明显,但事实就是这样,光线指向新月的尖端。月球和相机之间的距离与相机和窗户之间的距离不同。因此在变焦过程中,其中一个会调整而另一个不会。这视频是假的。

 

The John Moore show, 11 July 2012. A soldier in the military gave John Moore a call 10 July (according to the show) telling him that the last week the military have been conducting briefings for soldier families living on the East, West and Gulf Coast of the US. The soldiers where told about a planet that have entered the solar system called Nibiru and are to be causing very severe problems, much worse than what the world now is experiencing. Their families should prepare and be put on standby and ready to leave with little notice. So my question is: Why are they now informing military personal (if the show speaks the truth)? Is it an altruistic action or another agenda in play here? Clearly they are not informing the public. [and from another] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjCrehCZc9c&feature=player_embedded Private and trusted source … These kind of briefings would take place .. 6 weeks to 3-4 months ahead at most … My source .. both mature men and both Viet Nam vets … My source is not the dependent … The original source does not even know they are a source. 

John Moore's source was provided false information to embarrass John Moore, and discredit him. There are various parties warning the public about the coming Pole Shift, and pointing to the skies. One of these is the ZetaTalk source, an alien source, which cannot be eliminated because Nancy is under protection and any assassination attempt is known before it even gets started. Other such prophecies, from non-human sources over the eons, are also untouchable due to their accuracy on other matters.  Then there are the human generated "sources" of information about the pending Pole Shift, which are in the category of theory or leaks. If they are claiming theory, they are considered relatively innocent but if claiming leaks, the cover-up considers them a threat. 
约翰摩尔的信息来源提供了错误的信息来使约翰摩尔困窘并名誉扫地。有各种各样的团体在警告公众即将到来的极移,并指向天空。其中一个就是齐塔人之声消息来源,来自外星人,齐塔人之声无法被消除因为nancy处在保护之下,任何暗杀企图甚至在开始之前我们就已经知晓了。其它此类预言,自古以来来自非人类来源的预言,同样由于在其它方面的精确性而遥不可及。之后还有人类发出的关于即将到来的极移的信息"来源",以某种理论或是泄密的方式出现。如果被声称是理论,就会被认为比较无知而如果被说成是泄密,那么掩盖活动就会将其当成是威胁。
Given that the cover-up is so tense, the fear of a breach among those in the know so heightened that anyone even suspected of planning to leak information to the public is killed, what is the likelihood that dependents in the US military, en mass, would be informed? The concept is ludicrous, and anyone entertaining the concept a fool. This is, in fact, the reason John Moore was given false information, though John and the man he considers his "source" were both unaware that false information was being delivered. Both, being military men, are under the illusion that the US military would take care of them, and their dependents. Thus concocting such a story as dependents signing "disclosure agreements" and being warned "at most 3-4 months ahead" of a disaster is believable, on an emotional level, to these gullible men.  

考虑到掩盖活动如此之紧张,对那些知情者的背叛的恐惧如此之高以至于任何人即使有计划向公众泄密的嫌疑都会被杀害,如果美军的家属,全都被告知珍像,可能会发生什么?这种观点十分滑稽,任何接纳这个观点的人都比较呆。这,事实上就是约翰摩尔被给予错误消息的原因,尽管约翰摩尔和他的"消息来源"都不知道传递的消息是假的。这两个人都是军方人士,并且幻想美军会罩着他们及其家属。因此捏造了家属签署"揭秘协议"并受到警告"最多3-4个月以后"会有大灾难的故事,对于那些容易上当的人,在情绪上这很可信。

We have stated that the US military will find most in its ranks missing by the time the hour of the Pole Shift arrives. Some will have gone rogue - taking guns and comrades to form self-serving gangs. Some will run off to be with their families and taking their dependents off the base and into more familiar territory. Some will go insane, as 43% of the populace will, per our predictions. Most certainly, the US government will not be able to feed and house an army, much less an army of dependents. They will attempt to select only the most reliable soldiers, primarily those without family ties, and
release the rest knowing the likely outcome. 

我们说过将发现当极移到来之时其队伍中大多数人都会消失。一些人会变成流氓——拿起武器拉帮结伙组成服务自我的帮派。一些人会逃走与他们的家人待在一起,将亲属带出基地,前往他们更加熟悉的地方。一些人会发疯,就像我们预测的43%总人口那样。可以肯定的是,美国政府没办法养活他们的军队,更不用说家属大军了。知晓这种结果,他们将试图只挑选出最可信的士兵,主要是那些没有家庭关系的,然后把其他士兵解散。

Most joining the military are doing so 
looking for a parent, and when the parent can no longer care for the child, the relationship is broken. The notion that these children are heros is promulgated in the media, and by those in government, to keep the ranks placated when they are sent into wars that primarily support corporate interests, and maimed or killed. Thus we have the populace emotionally wanting to think the US government would care for its troops and dependents, and that social services likewise would not collapse, tuned into John Moore and other such human sources of information, with rapt attention. Why is their faith in these human sources being trashed, just as the Earth changes are increasing to the level that they cannot be ignored? 

大多数加入军队的人都是为了寻找一个类似父母的角色,当"父母"不再关心"孩子"时,这种关系就被打破了。这些孩子是英雄 这种概念是政府通过媒体公布的,来使他们的队伍在送去参加那些主要是为公司利益服务的战争,受伤或是被杀时,能够得到安慰。因此公众在感情上想要相信美国政府会关心其军队以及家属,想要相信社会福利同样不会垮掉,并全身心地关注约翰摩尔以及其它这种人类信息来源。随着地球变化增大到无法忽略的程度,为什么他们对这些人类消息来源的信任会被捣毁?

The cover-up is poised to make an announcement, by Obama, a worldwide broadcast announcing the presence of Nibiru, aka Planet X, nearby. We have explained this 
pending announcement in the body of ZetaTalk recently. When such an announcement is made, the cover-up is most concerned about maintaining control of the message. In that ZetaTalk has been on target since its birth in 1995, even tracking Planet X into the inner solar system in 2003 with documented evidence, it cannot be disputed. It is also too widely known to be eliminated and has proven resistant to being discredited. But there are dozens of individuals, generating their own prophecies and garnering their own following, who will try to grab the stage. The cover-up wants to be the voice that is listened to, in control of the message, and thus these other human sources of information are being taken down, ahead of time. 

掩盖活动随时准备通过奥巴马发出公告,发布世界范围的宣告,宣布X星,又名尼必汝,存在于附近。我们最近在齐塔人之声主体中解释了这个即将到来的宣告。当做出这个宣告时,掩盖活动最关心的是维持对信息的控制。在此之中齐塔人之声从1995年开始就成为了目标,即使我们在2003年备有文件证明跟踪过X星进入内太阳系,没有任何争议。我们知名度也太广以至于无法被消除并且通过实际证明了我们对他人诋毁的抵抗性。但是还有很多个体,发出自己的预言并获得其追随者,他们想要霸占舞台。掩盖活动想要成为公众听从的信息,想要控制信息,因此这些其他人类信息来源被提前瓦解。

My question is in regards to PX disclosure, as has been described in recent weeks by the Zetas, where they describe how this could be done by Obama, and then govt could try to take the role of "the good guys". Seeing as we are in an election year, could PX disclosure be used by the Romney camp to preempt a Presidential announcement? At the risk of being too political here, it seems to me that Romney is representing the interests of the most wealthy, meaning those people supporting a cover-up over PX. Also, although most of the corporate owned pollsters say the presidential race is within just a few points, Romney has shown serious flaws, and may be growing more desperate for a shift in focus, where he could then play "the good guy" vs the silent White House. Perhaps, if the elite believe disclosure is inevitable, they could quickly jump to such a tactic, could they not?

The cover-up has maintained control over the message given to the public by brutality. The recent assassination of a Japanese astronomer in Chile did not even try to hide the fact. It was a message, to those who might be thinking of taking the risk. Those who would assassinate anyone even thinking of preempting the cover-up by a general announcement to the public include the Secret Service, who would be put into place to guard Romney when he becomes the Republican nominee. There is no where he could run, or be safe. The mics世界银行/军工集团,我也不知道指什么) would not work, Romney would appear to have a stroke or aneurism, and this group well knows this. This type of guard is put around Obama too, as the death of JFK shows is possible. 

掩盖活动通过残暴的手段来保持对给予公众的信息的控制。最近日本天文学家在智利的暗杀案甚至没有任何掩盖。这是一条发给那些可能在考虑冒险的人的信息。那些可以暗杀任何人 甚至包括那些考虑通过向公众发出一般公告来取代掩盖活动的人 的人包括特勤局,当罗姆尼成为共和党候选人时特勤局会负责保护他。他无处可逃。The mics 不会起作用,罗姆尼将可能出现脑溢血或是动脉瘤,这一团体很清楚这一点。这种类型的保护也施加在了奥巴马身上,因为肯尼迪的死亡证明这是可能的。

President Barack Obama asked one of his advisers to create an electronic control center, which would have sealed access to the network of government and administration"http://www.inopressa.ru/article/18Jul2012/repubblica/hacker.html
Sorry for the Russian link. Just can't find it in English. Could you comment this, if it possible? 
[and from another]
 A team of Russian hackers to cyber security guard U.S. July 18, 2012 http://www.inopressa.ru/article/18Jul2012/repubblica/hacker.html President Barack Obama has ordered one of his advisors to create an electronic control center, which would have sealed access to the network of government and administration. There is a team of hackers, which operates in the shadow of the world. They are the best. It is to them by the CIA and the Pentagon has officially offered the job. There is a team of hackers, which operates in the shadow of the world. They are the best. It is to them by the CIA and the Pentagon has officially offered the job. A hacker who is very famous in Russia, beat all competitors: two minutes, he broke into the computer system of the American military establishment. [and from another] http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nsa-is-looking-for-a-few-good-hackers/2011/08/02/gIQAXZAbqI_story.html The National Security Agency has a challenge for hackers who think they're hot stuff: Prove it by working on the "hardest problems on Earth." Computer hacker skills are in great demand in the U.S. government to fight the cyberwars that pose a growing national security threat — and they are in short supply. For that reason an alphabet soup of federal agencies — DOD, DHS, NASA, NSA — are descending on Las Vegas this week for Defcon, an annual hacker convention.

Yes, hackers from Russia have been hired by the US government, which is no secret. It was in the news almost a year ago that the NSA was looking for hackers, to work at protecting the US government 's business from hackers. Are they seeking a leak-proof control center? This is of course the goal, especially in the current times when the pending Pole Shift will have many maneuvers the US government would like kept secret from the American public, as well as from enemies abroad.

是的,来自俄国的黑客被美国政府雇佣这不是什么秘密。美国国家安全局寻找黑客保护美国政府的生意免遭黑客袭击这种事大约一年前就上新闻了。他们是否正寻求一个密闭的控制中心?这当然是目标,尤其是当前形势下随着极移的到来美国政府会有很多军事演习想要躲过美国公众的视线,更不用说境外的敌人了。

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