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The African Sahara is about 7000 km from Bahamas this red iron concentration in the stalagmites, are Nibiru remnants of dust? [and from another] http://www.livescience.com/30896-stalagmites-climate-clues-blue-holes.html  Deep divers in the Bahamas are retrieving stalagmites from underwater caves to learn about the impact that ancient dust storms had on the planet's climate. Stalagmites are a type of cave formation created as water drips down from a cave's ceiling and onto its floor where it deposits minerals, particularly calcium carbonate, in cone-shaped spikes. Stalagmites are the formations that point up. The stalagmite samples from the Great Blue Hole showed three periods of rapid shifts from a wet to dry climate in the ancient Bahamas. These periods correlate with so-called Heinrich events in the North Atlantic, which are a well-studied phenomenon where very cold periods are followed by a rapid shift to a warmer climate. The three rapid shifts were found during the period from 13,500 to 31,500 years ago. The stalagmite data suggest that Heinrich events in the Bahamas are periods of extreme aridity followed by a much wetter climate. Curiously, the team also found high levels of iron in the stalagmites during the Heinrich events. Iron shouldn't be there since there are no known nearby sources. [and from another] http://www6.miami.edu/miami-magazine/fall2011/featurestory3.html  From deep within the caves, the researchers also gathered dozens of stalagmites. These calcium carbonate formations built up during the ice ages, when sea levels dropped and the sinkholes were dry. The stalagmites are solid, with layers that are basically like tree rings related to age, so you can date them. Red iron deposits in the stalagmites are remnants of dust that blew across the Atlantic from the African Sahara thousands of years ago. [and from another] http://emsnews.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/the-universal-hologram-human-brains-are-very-odd-places/  Here is a stalagmite that was cut in half: It has rings like a tree.  The dark lines are iron which comes from dust blown from Africa.  The densest rings of black iron in this deposit are actually greatest pre-54,000 years ago.  There were very, very few humans back then.  But they had something very big: fire.   The use of fire to hunt game was the big thing.  We basically set Africa on fire.  The fires had the greatest effect not since 12,000 years ago but before this. [and from another] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_event  The events are rapid: they last around 750 years, and their abrupt onset may occur in mere years. Heinrich events are often marked by the following changes: Pollen indications of cold-loving pines replacing oaks on the North American mainland; decreased oceanic salinity, due to the influx of fresh water; increased grain size in wind-blown loess in China, suggesting stronger winds. The mathematics of the system are consistent with a 7,000-year periodicity.

Once again human scientists refuse to see the elephant in the room. The periodic nature of the Earth changes is staring them in the face, yet they refuse to look or comprehend. It is deliberate amnesia, because the thought is so very scary. Of course the Heinrich events happened approximately every 7,000 years, as the periodic return of Nibiru, aka Planet X, occurred every 3,600 years. Do the math! Does this not equate to 7,200 years, a multiple of 3,600? The stalagmite red lines are identified at 11,000 and 14,000 and 21,000 years – rounded as this is not a precise business. Does this not equate to 10,800 and 14,400 and 21,600 years, a multiple of 3,600 years?
再一次人类科学家对屋中的大象视而不见。周期性的地球变化正在盯着他们,而她们却拒绝理解甚至看都不看。这是在故意健忘,因为这个想法如此之令人恐慌。无疑海因里克现象大约每7000年发生一次,因为Nibiru,也就是X星的回归周期是3600年。自己动手算一下!3600的两倍,是不是7200?经鉴定石笋的红线年龄为11000年,14000年,还有21000年——大约有这些年份,因为测量并不会十分精确。这难道不就是10,800年,14400年,21600年,也就是3600年周期的倍数吗?
The theory that red dust, laden with iron oxide, is blown west from the Sahara is postulated even today to explain red dust in Europe and the US. Absurd, beyond absurd, but any theory is better than facing the idea that the crust shifts every 3,600 years as the giant magnet that is Nibiru, aka Planet X, passes by. Of course ice at whatever was the N Pole at the time melted, increasing the fresh water in the Atlantic. Of course plant lift in now warmer climates changed from cold loving to heat loving plants, or vice versa. And of course newly deposited red dust was solidified in stalagmites carrying the dust in the drip.

直到今天,人们仍然提出 满载着氧化铁的红尘,是由撒哈拉吹向西方的 这个理论,来解释欧洲和美国的红尘。谬误,简直是荒谬,但是无论什么理论都比面对 由于巨形磁铁Nibiru ,也就是X星的过境而导致了地壳每3600年移动一次 这个想法更好一些。当然无论当时北极在哪里都会融化,增加大西洋中的淡水。无疑现在在更加温暖的气候下生长出来的植物从喜爱寒冷转变为喜爱温暖,反之亦然。也当然新堆积的红尘凝固在了水滴中携带红尘的石笋上。

I saw this photo posted as a top space photo of the week, and even though I know little of astronomy it seems to me that this time-delay photo of the night sky in India may indicate different orientations of the Earth's rotation throughout the night. The pattern I am used to seeing in similar time-delay compositions is an even circular pattern around a center point, whereas this one seems to have two focal points (like a figure 8 might have!?) If my ignorance of astronomy renders this observation invalid, please disregard my implied question. On the other hand, I thought it could be amazingly clear visual evidence of the wobbling planet. (4th photo in the series) http://www.space.com/21397-best-space-photos-of-the-week-june-1-2013.html  [and from another] http://www.space.com/21331-spellbinding-star-trails-india-photo.html  Star trails shine above Devasthal Peak in Northern India in this captivating night sky photo. This image captures star trails over the newly-constructed Devasthal Optical Telescope. Located high atop the Devasthal peak in Uttarakhand, India.


This long-exposure capture shows the increased wobble in an undeniable and dramatic manner. In 2007 the wobble was detectible only by a skew in what would otherwise be a perfect circle around Polaris. By
March 23, 2010 and April 17, 2010 this skew had gotten wider, making an oval rather than a circle around Polaris. Are the cameras on a drunken pedestal? The establishment falls silent in the face of such evidence, hoping the public does not notice. Now on March 1, 2013 there is a new development. The center of the focus is in two places, not just one!
这张长期曝光照片以一种无可辩驳且引人注目的方式展示了地球抖动的加剧。2007年抖动仅能通过环绕北极星的完美圆形的稍有变形察觉到。到了2010.3.23和2010.4.17,偏斜变得更加严重,围绕在北极星周围的是椭圆形而不是圆形。摄像机的底座喝多了么?在面对此类证据时,权势集团陷入了沉默,希望公众不会发现。现在2013.3.1,情况进一步发展。焦点的位置有两个,而不是一个!
As Nancy pointed out in a recent newsletter, due to Planet X more to the right of the Earth lately, the Figure 8 has Polaris low on the horizon and to the right in India when the Sun is high overhead in America, and then switching quickly where Polaris is high in the dome and more to the left in India when the Sun is moving to be over New Zealand. This long-exposure photo show this motion, without question. It is not that the camera platform moves. It is not that Polaris moves. It is that the Earth itself moves to point its N Pole toward a different place! It is difficult in the middle of the night to determine this, as the usual proof is to measure the Azimuth of the sunrise or sunset. But here, we have a midnight capture!

正如Nancy在最近的新闻简报中指出的,由于X星最近走到了相对地球更加右边的地方,当太阳高挂在美国上空时,8字形抖动使得北极星在印度看去更加靠近地平线而且偏右,之后当太阳移动到新西兰上空,从印度看去北极星迅速变成高挂在穹顶并更加偏左。这张长期曝光照片无疑展示了这种运动。并不是相机平台在运动。并不是北极星在运动。是地球本身将其北极指向了不同的地方!通常来说很难在午夜进行这种判别,因为一般通过测量日出或日落的方位来作为证据。但是现在,我们得到了一张午夜照片!

It's that time of year again - Bilderberg meeting. Would the Zetas care to comment on what will be discussed, in particular in regards to Planet X, the cover up and the elites resigning left and right? [and from another] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/02/week-ahead-bilderberg-2013-watford   A heady mix of politicians, bank bosses, billionaires, chief executives and European royalty will swoop up the elegant drive of the Grove hotel, north of Watford, to begin the annual Bilderberg conference. The conference is the highlight of every plutocrat's year and has been since 1954. The only time Bilderberg skipped a year was 1976, after the group's founding chairman, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, was caught taking bribes from Lockheed Martin. Senior politicians will be holed up for three days in luxurious privacy with the chairmen and CEOs of hedge funds, tech corporations and vast multinational holding companies, with zero press oversight.  [and from another] http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/474529/20130604/bilderberg-2013-conspiracy-watford-lizard.htm  It is dominated by middle-aged and elderly white men, with Christine Lagarde, managing director of the IMF, leading the tiny coterie of women that can now pass muster among the financial and political elite. Tidjane Thiam, CEO of insurance giant Prudential, will probably be the only black face there. Meanwhile, the sense that it is stuck in the rut of its Cold War origins (founded in 1954 to foster dialogue between Europe and North America) is revealed by the fact that it is yet to recognize that the Iron Curtain crumbled over 20 years ago. Despite having been initiated by, among others, Polish politician-in-exile Józef Retinger, there is not a single invitee from east of the Elbe, let alone Russia. Here is the official list of attendees and the agenda for the Bilderberg Group meeting at The Grove in Watford, 6-9 June.

We have described the Bilderberg Group as formed originally in 1954, following Roswell, to discuss the alien presence and what the impact on the world would be should the public be informed. And where the agenda is always full, fretting over how the wealthy and politically powerful in the West can maintain control of the world, discussing the impact on the world should the public be informed about the pending passage of Planet X, aka Nibiru, has come to replace the alien presence as the dominant topic of discussion. This year, in 2013, both cover-ups are threatening to break, almost simultaneously. It is no longer 'what if' but 'now what' that will be discussed.
我们描述过比尔德伯格集团起初于1954年成立,在罗斯威尔事件之后,以讨论外星人的存在以及可能对地球造成的冲击,公众是否应该被告知此信息。通常满满的议程,已经由 为西方的有钱人与政界大腕将如何维持对世界的控制而着急,讨论如果公众被告知即将到来的X星,又名Nibiru的过境,将造成什么样的冲击 替换了 外星人的存在 这一议题。今年,2013,两方面掩盖活动均几乎同时濒临崩溃。将要讨论的不再是"如果"而是"现在该怎么办"。
The list of worries for the wealthy and powerful is endless. As the economic slowdown grinds on, a virtual global depression, will this mean bank failures? For the wealthy, it is likely to mean a change in ownership.  As the poor are unable to pay their bills, banks will sell the assets to the wealthy at a bargain price. Corporate shares, foreclosed housing, and farm lands will go cheap, but what will this ultimately mean? Paper ownership will mean nothing in the Aftertime, when squatter's rights and the ability of hard working survival camps to feed themselves will prevail. There will be no courts or military or police to enforce paper rights, and thus the wealthy are fooling themselves in their expectations.
有钱人和政界大腕需要担心的事情的清单无穷无尽。随着经济衰退,全球经济萧条的继续发展,这是否意味着银行倒闭?对于有钱人来说,这很可能意味着所有权的改变。由于穷人无法支付账单,银行将以便宜的价格变卖资产。法人股,被取消抵押品赎回权的房屋,农业土地将廉价出售,但这最终将意味着什么?极移之后,当擅居者权利和求生团队努力工作养活自己的能力盛行起来时,纸制所有权证明将一文不值。没有什么法院或是军队或是警察来确保纸制所有权的效力,因此那些有钱人完全是在自己骗自己。
We predicted that the public would react to an admission that Nibiru, aka Planet X, was real and nearby, soon to pass, would result in shock amid the public. They would go to work, pay their bills, and take some time to react. The announcement is expected to mention that Nibiru is not newly arrived, but has been near the Sun for years, in order to prevent instant panic. But the Bilderberg Group imagines the worst. They fear riots in every city, opportunistic looting, and services maintaining power and water collapsing. Will martial law be imposed? How long will it take to re-establish order? In all of their discussions, helping the common man though these times is seldom on the agenda, and then only as a bargaining chip.   
我们预测过公众将对 承认Nibiru,也就是X星,确实存在而且就在附近,即将过境 做出的反应,就是将会导致公众处于极度震惊状态。他们会继续工作,支付账单,花些时间做出反应。宣告预期将提到Nibiru并不是刚刚到来,而是存在于太阳附近很多年了,以此来阻止公众瞬间恐慌。但是比尔德伯格集团做出了最坏的打算。他们害怕每座城市发生暴乱,趁乱打劫,而且维持水电服务的机构崩溃。是否会强制实施戒严令?恢复秩序需要多长时间?在他们所有的讨论中,帮助公众渡过难关从来都不是讨论议程,顶多用来作为谈判的筹码。
Regardless of whom they represent, each attendee is sorting out their personal situation. Will their country be flooded, and if so will they be guaranteed a safe haven in another? Migration is expected to be tightly controlled, so personal favors and assurances are being sought. Migration patterns are another concern. Determining where the starving and drowning masses might be flowing will allow enclaves of the rich and powerful to be situated away from potential loss of control. Are the members of the Bilderberg Group planning any steps to assist the public? This comes up for discussion in the context of placating the public. Hazard pay, employment benefits, so the public will stay in dangerous places for a bit of extra cash. Such is the orientation of the Bilderberg Group.

无论是代表谁,每位出席者都在衡量着他们自己的处境。他们的国家是否会被淹没,如果是的话他们是否能够确保在别处得到一个避难所?预期移民会被严格控制,这样一来就可以考虑个人爱好和保障。移民模式是另一个需要考虑的事项。确饥饿和淹溺的难民肯呢过会如何流动将允许有钱人和政界大腕们将其飞地设置在远离可能会失去控制的地方。比尔德伯格集团的成员们是否针对如何帮助公众做出了计划?只有在安抚群众的时候才会考虑这个问题。危险工作补贴,鼓励就业津贴,这样一来公众就会为了一点点额外的工资留在那些危险的地方。这就是比尔德伯格集团的方向。

I was wondering if the Zetas would care to comment on this latest satellite launch by NASA, IRIS. Is there more to this launch than just studying the sun's corona? [and from another]  http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/04/18759499-nasa-gets-ready-for-launch-of-iris-probe-to-study-suns-interface-region?lite  The satellite will circle Earth in a sun-synchronous polar orbit, which means it will fly along the planet's dawn/dusk line, looking toward the sun. Each orbit will take 97 minutes to complete, which will allow IRIS to circle the planet about 14 or 15 times each day, from an altitude of about 373 miles (600 kilometers). This path, which is designed to take the spacecraft over the equator at the same local time every day, allows for nearly continuous looks at the sun. The $181 million mission is designed to operate for about two years. [and from another] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_orbit  A polar orbit is an orbit in which a satellite passes above or nearly above both poles of the body being orbited. It is common for near-polar orbiting satellites to choose a sun-synchronous orbit: meaning that each successive orbital pass occurs at the same local time of day.

What is NASA trying to learn with this new satellite, which will be positioned exactly over the Equator at the same time each day? This is exactly what a scientist would need in order to ascertain a change in the Earth wobble!  The satellite hugs the Earth, hugs the Equator in fact, so the angle of view toward the Sun should change only for the slow passing of the seasons.  But during the daily Earth wobble, the angle of view toward the Sun changes as the N Pole is first pushed away from Planet X, then later compensates by bouncing back. The daily Figure 8 pattern also has the Earth first leaning to the right, then the left, a pattern that is overlaid over the polar push pattern.
NASA想要从这颗新的,将要每天同一时间都精确放置在赤道之上的卫星上得到什么信息?这正是科学家们为了确定地球的抖动所需要的信息!卫星悬挂在地球上,事实上悬挂在赤道之上,这样朝向太阳的视角就应该仅随着季节的流动而缓慢变化。但是在每日地球抖动期间,朝向太阳的视角会随着 北极先是被从X星方向推开,之后随着反弹而补偿回来 而发生变化。每日8字形抖动模式也使得地球先是向右倾斜,之后向左,这种模式会叠加在前一种磁极推动模式上。
Since the wobble is palpable, measurable from the surface of the Earth by those measuring the Azimuth and timing of their sunrise and sunset, why does NASA need a satellite to give them details about the Earth wobble? More than the severity of the wobble can be ascertained, though the satellite will give this in exacting detail, showing and documenting trends. The magnetic blast coming toward Earth from the N Pole of Planet X will be measured, giving an early alert on the trend of steady increase expected to eventually devastate mankind's electronics and satellites.  After the announcement, NASA may admit the true use of this satellite, but we doubt it.

既然抖动十分明显,可以在地表通过测量方位和日出日落时间来测得,为什么NASA还要一颗卫星来得到关于地球变化的详细信息?卫星会给出具体的数据,显示并记录下趋势,但从中并不仅仅可以确定出地球抖动的严重程度。从X星北极发出的涌向地球的磁冲也可以被精确测量,给出 磁冲的稳定增长的预期最终会毁灭人类的电子设备和卫星的趋势 的提前预警。在宣告之后,NASA或许会承认这颗卫星的真正用途,但是我们怀疑这一点。

Would the Zeta's care to comment on if this is priming the population prior to the disclosure by Obama, or is it merely a timely coincidence? Either way there are some pretty powerful and disturbing allegations made during this video. [and from another]  http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=XEQdvYFMBAU#!  Hon. Paul Hellyer – Canadian Minister of National Defense testifies knowing of 4 Alien races actively visiting Earth. This is a must watch video in which he states that they have concluded that at least four species have been visiting earth for thousands of years. There are live ET's on earth at this present time and at least two of them are working with the United States Government. He mentions the UFO presence is being kept secret by vested interests which he refers to as a Cabal comprising of members of the Three Sisters including the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Group, the Tri-Lateral Commission, the International Banking Cartel, Big Oil, Various Intelligence Organizations, and select members of the military, who together have become a Shadow Government of not only the United States but of much of the western world. Quote "The aim of the game is a world government comprising members of the Cabal who are elected by no-one and accountable to no-one, and according to Mr Rockefeller the plan is well advanced". [and from another] http://ddsdtv.blogspot.com  Published on Jun 1, 2013. Former Special Assistant to the Executive Director of the CIA Victor Marchetti: The US government, in collusion with the other national powers of the Earth, is determined to keep this information from the general public. Deputy Chief of the Royal Belgian Air Force Major-General Wilfred de Brouwer: Until now, not a single trace of aggressiveness has been signaled; military or civilian air traffic has not been perturbed nor threatened. We can therefore advance that the presumed activities do not constitute a direct menace. Japan's Defense Minister, Shigeru Ishiba: There are no grounds for us to deny there are unidentified flying objects and some lifeform that controls them. Sworn Affidavit by Lieutenant Walter Haut concerning his experience of the 1947 UFO crash AT Roswell, NM: Haut describes seeing the UFO and the occupants consisting of alien bodies as well as a high-level meeting with Col. William Blanchard and General Roger Ramey, Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force. Astronaut Scott Carpenter: There was a constant surveillance by UFOs. Colonel Joseph J. Bryan III, founding member of the CIA's psychological warfare staff, advisor to NATO: These UFOs are interplanetary devices systematically observing the Earth, either manned or under remote control, or both. Information on UFOs, including sighting reports, has been and is still being officially withheld. President Jimmy Carter - Interview following his sighting of a UFO at Leary, Georgia - October 1969: It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors, and it was about the size of the moon. 

What is amazing is not the information being relayed by this Canadian Defense Minister but that he has not been killed. He is specific in his descriptions not of alien races but of MJ12, its composition, its membership, and the agenda of some of its more powerful members. We explained that the MJ12 organization engaged with aliens, under contractual obligations with aliens, died in 2000 when Bush and Cheney stole the White House by election fraud. Where this removed the arrangement with ourselves for travel and cloaking by space ship, and removed the official human oversight by the Governing Boards, many of the members refused to recognize the suicide of MJ12 and continued their associations.
令人惊讶的并不是这个加拿大国防部长所转达的信息,而是他居然没被杀掉。他详细描述的并不是外星种族,而是MJ12,描述了其组成,其成员,还有其中较有权力的成员的议程。我们解释过MJ12组织在与外星人的合同之下与外星人商谈,终止于2000年布什和切尼通过选举舞弊篡夺了白宫。这撤消了我们自己的太空船的旅行与隐身许可,同时还撤消了人类理事会的正式监督,很多成员拒绝承认MJ12的自我终止并继续保持联系。
The current association of the former MJ12 members is now no more significant than the Bilderberg Group, though these individuals have certain knowledge of aliens and the pending passage of Planet X, and some have met aliens in the conscious contact allowed in the past for MJ12 members.  What changed that Paul Hellyer was able to describe the composition of what he calls a Cabal or Secret Government? The rules are loosening, and the actual membership of the Cabal growing to include others who were never under the Governing Boards of MJ12. The actual MJ12, in the past, required any new members to sign an agreement that they could be put to death for either revealing the existence of MJ12 or profiting from their membership. Paul Hellyer was never a member.
现在前MJ12成员的联系并不比比尔德伯格集团更加意义重大,尽管这些个体确实知晓关于外星人和X星即将过境的信息,而且有些还因曾是MJ12成员而得到授权在显意识接触中见过外星人。是什么发生了变化使得保罗赫利尔能够描述他所谓的阴谋集团或是秘密政府的组成?规矩正变得松散,而且阴谋集团的实际成员资格正在增长,囊括了那些从来没进入过MJ12理事会的人。过去那个真正的MJ12,需要所有新成员签署协议,让他们保证任何透露MJ12的存在或是从其成员资格中获益的行为都将被处死。保罗赫利尔从来都不是其中一员。
The original goals of MJ12 did not include a New World Order or world government. There were of course many agendas, each individual holding his own agenda. Military members wished to gain control of alien technology and others wished to learn the date of the pending passage of Planet X while keeping the public ignorant.  Due to the publicity the courageous Paul Hellyer's testimony has received, others will be emboldened to question the actions and influence of members of the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Tri-Lateral Commission. The influence of big oil companies and military industrial complex interests will likewise be increasingly scrutinized. All to the good.

MJ12的最初目标并不包含世界新秩序或是世界政府。当然有很多议程存在,每个个体都有其自己的目的。军队成员想要获得对外星科技的控制而其他的人想要知道X星过境的时间的同时让公众保持一无所知。由于保罗赫利尔的证词的胆魄得到了的宣传,其他的人也将有胆量站出来质疑比尔德伯格集团,外交关系委员会,还有三边委员会等团体的行为和其成员的影响力。大石油公司和军事工业复合体的利益的影响将同样越来越受到审核。事情正在向好的方向发展。

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